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Posted 14 December 2003 - 10:03 PM

Here is an emergency first aid link: http://home.earthlin...ine/firsaid.htm Recognizing Emergencies which require IMMEDIATE VETERINARY CARE: http://www.tortoiset...s/Emergency.htm

If you can locate one, get a qualified reptile vet. Ordinary vets are no better prepared to treat your turtle than your family physician. Here is our vet link. If you have found a wild turtle who is sick or injured, this website will help you locate a wild animal rehabber in your area: http://www.tc.umn.ed...o0028/index.htm

The following generalizations are based on the care of cooters, sliders, and painted turtles. It has to be adjusted for other species, and especially for land species, e.g. they still need their environment made warmer, but that would be their AIR not their WATER.:

A. A sick turtle needs (General Sick Turtle Protocol consists of: )

1) Water around 82-85 degrees F. (28-29 degrees C) and basking temperature around 90 degrees F. (32-34 degrees C). If you have a land turtle, or a species other than a slider, painted turtle, or cooter, these temperatures may vary slightly.

2) Lots of UV light. SEE:UVB light for the specific experience of many boardies on this subject.
Will UVA/UVB Light go through a thick glass window

UV lighting sources are 1) Natural, direct sunlight and a good artificial source, such as a Reptisun 10.0, 8.0, 5.0 under 6 months old for a sick turtle, or a reptile mercury vapor lamp. Reptile Mercury Vapor lamps include: Capture The Sun Mercury Vapor Bulbs, Powersun UV Mercury Vapor Lamps, and others. I have had the best experience with Capture the Sun Mercury Vapor Bulbs which both outlasted and outproformed (in terms of UV output) other UV mercury vapor bulbs I have tried, but others have had different results.

3) Liquid vitamins dissolved in his water for turtles that are not eating. Ideally, a calcium block is good, too. I use human baby vitamins, Poly-Vi-Sol. Another good source of calcium is bony tiny fish, like bait fish, minnows, and smelts. If the turtle is still eating, however, and you can still get it to eat herp vitamins, those are better.

4) If you are unsure what is wrong with the turtle, isolate him or her until you can be sure it wonít make your other turtles sick. Give the exposed turtles palliative care to prevent illness. Turtle diseases which are known to be catching are marked below with two *s, **. ** means: Infectious disease. Isolate the turtle. Take preventive measure to protect any exposed animal.

5) Every diseased turtle should be brought to a qualified turtle (technical name:herp) vet to ensure you have diagnosed the turtle correctly, and to get any medications which can help your turtle get well.

6) A review of basic husbandry techniques to be sure you are giving the turtle all the things he needs to survive. For Care For Sliders, Cooters, and Painted Turtles, for other turtles, and more care tips on cooters, sliders, and painted turtles, try looking up your species in Care Sheets Alphabetical by Common Name, for common names starting with A to I. J to R. or S to Z. . The care sheets are listed by common name, but include scientific names. In some cases, the turtles are grouped by species, in other by genus, but the common name will direct you to the listing. There are over 90 species of turtle listed.

NOTE WELL: DO NOT DRYDOCK WATER TURTLES AS A GENERAL SICK TURTLE RESPONSE. Drydocking (forcing the turtle to stay on dry land) puts water turtles themselves under a lot of stress. This should only be used for specific illnesses which have been shown to respond to drydocking. Any action which strains the turtle but not the illness (drydocking for respiratory infection, for example) makes it harder for the turtle to recover and easier for the illness to get stronger.

B. Specific illnesses

1) Turtle caught underwater and appears to have drowned. Put him on dry land and pump his legs, to try to get him to breathe again. Some here have reported success if the turtle was caught quickly enough. Here is a heartwrenching account: of an owner who saved their turtle

here are detailed instructions of turtle CPR:
Copyright by Valerie Haecky. This document may be freely distributed for non-profit use, provided this notice is included.

The following information is compiled from a variety of articles in various newsletters. I have tried this myself, too.

Both water turtles and box turtles can drown. Even a drowned turtle that looks quite dead might just be waiting for you to help it get its breath back. Remember that turtles can be without oxygen for a long time, especially in cool water, before the damage is irreversible.

First and foremost: NEVER TURN THE TURTLE/TORTOISE ON ITS BACK.
Turning it on his back might remove the little airspace still left in the lungs.

1. Grasp the turtle's head behind the ears (base of skull) and extend the neck completely.

2. Turn it head-down/tail up and open its mouth. Usually, some water will flow of drip out at this point. Wait until the dripping stops.

3. Place the turtle (belly down) on a flat surface with it's neck extended. Stand in front of the turtle.

4. Straighten his front legs and pull them straight toward you as far as they will go.

5. Keeping the legs straight, push them in as far as they will go. Do not let the legs bend at the elbows.

6. Continue pulling and pushing until water stops coming out.

Now it's time to take your turtle to the veterinarian. The veterinarian will insert a tube and start providing the turtle with pure oxygen. He may give a respiratory stimulant and a drug to a drug that will help the turtle excrete the water accumulate in its tissue. After this, the turtle will probably regain consciousness and start moving.

Since some turtles develop pneumonia after drowning, the veterinarian will most likely recommend a course of antibiotics.

A note on mouth-to-mouth (or straw to mouth) breathing. I've seen it described in one place. I don't know whether it works, and I don't know whether the risk of blowing in too hard and damaging the lungs is worth it. The above instructions are proven to work in many cases.

A note on baby turtles: The smaller the turtle, the harder it is to help the animal, simply because of its small size.

2) If **Turtle is vocalizing, either by loud breathing or clicking sounds, appears to be gasping for breath, swimming lopsided, or is has mucus or foam at the mouth or nose, or just has a "runny nose" or swims or can't submerge., the turtle is probably suffering from a respiratory infection. This is very deadly in turtles. In addition to the above measures, it is IMPERATIVE the turtle be brought to a reptile vet (see Good links to Find a Herp Vet, just above this topic) to get antibiotics. Most untreated turtles who have respiratory infections will die. For more information read:
http://www.austinstu...medinjuries.htm
http://www.tortoiset...ticles/rns.html
http://www.tortoise....ves/brown1.html http://www.tortoise....neral/urds.html http://www.tortoise....eral/urds2.html
These infections may become chronic and require ongoing care. Read: http://www.turtletim...showtopic=36919

3) If **Turtle appears reddish, including either skin or on the shell. Turtle MAY have an infection which has worked its way into the blood. This will usually kill your turtle. It requires the general sick turtle protocol steps above PLUS a visit to the vet for antibiotics.

4) Turtleís shell appears to have air pockets under the scutes, and some are falling off. For a picture, see http://www.geocities...pagespiral.html .

Here is normal sheding in my cooter, Timmy:
Timmy_pealing_2005_pic2.jpg Timmy_Pealing_2005_pic.jpg
If there are scutes underneath, and the scutes come off as whole pieces or at least large ones, your turtle is shedding and growing. This is a sign of health, not sickness. DO NOT pull the scutes off. As the new scute becomes fully formed, the old scute is released. If you pull the scute off before the new scute is fully formed, your turtle may have exposed bone, and this is difficult and complex to treat, and leaves the turtle subject to disease and death. If the scutes are not falling off, your turtle is not getting enough UV lighting. Add more UV lighting, do not remove scutes that are not falling off on their own.

If on the other hand your turtles scutes are flaking off, there could be a problem. One poster found that this was happening when her turtle had an infection which required vet treatment. Here's the thread: http://www.turtletim...showtopic=44112

If a turtle fails to shed scutes that are somewhat loose, the turtle is not getting enough UV lighting. Also see http://www.redrobe.c...nian-vetp1.html

5) Turtle's skin is visibly shedding See http://www.turtlepud...ealth/skin.html and http://www.austinstu...re/medshell.htm.

6)Turtle has **fungus, or shell rot. There are several methods for treating this, and I have them listed here in order of toxicity, that is, the first is the least toxic, and the last should be used only if the other methods have already been tried and have failed.

-- a. salt soaks for a few minutes each day, and drydocking, with lots of direct sunlight, but not to the point where the turtle gets severely dehydrated. If fungus gets advanced, it will kill your turtle. Here is a pretty good thread about fungus..

-- b. For water turtles, add a small amount of salt to the tank water. Aquarium salt, sea salt, or even non-iodized table salt. For fresh water turtles, 1 level tsp. per gallon won't hurt them, but will give fungus and rot some trouble. For Diamond Back Terripans and other brackish water turtles, read the directions on the Aquarium Salt, and use about 1/2 of what they recommend for the level of salt in the sea.

-- c. Poster babs wrote: In years past, antiseptics such as hydrogen peroxide or Betadine(providone-iodine) or anitobiotic ointbents have been used. These will generally kill the pathogens successfully, however recent research indicates that theses things actually slow the healing process by preventing the regrowth of the epithelial cells over the effected area. The antiseptic of choice is often Nolvasan (clorahexidine) which is available from veterinary clinics (non-prescription), some pet stores and herp supply stores on the internet. Healing is noticably quicker with Nolvasan, so it is worth the effort to find some and use it. Nolvasan liquid solution is generally made with one part Nolvasan, 100 parts water."

I went to my local vet and they had some Clorahexidine by the name brand of Clorhexiderm. It is blue in color and must be diluted to one ounce per 1 gallon of water. This seems to be working really well with the turtle that had the severe shell rot, but I don't have anything for comparison. I actually put it in a spray bottle and spray the shell whenever they get out of the water

-- d. In addition, some people report excellent results using betadine and drydocking. However, any form of iodine has the potential to destroy your turtles's liver. In mild cases, try the salt soaks first. Related subject:Ick from fish.

-- e. Treating Extreme Shell Rot in Chelonia is an article from the World Chelonia Trust which also discusses possible treatments. Tortoise Trust's discussion is at http://www.tortoiset...s/shellrot.html
Other discussions about home treatment for mild shell rot: http://www.turtlepud...h/shellrot.html
http://www.redrobe.c...nian-vetp1.html
http://www.anapsid.org/shellrot.html
http://www.austinstu...re/medshell.htm

Treatment for severe shell rot MUST include a veterinarian. More information:
http://www.anapsid.org/shellrot.html
http://www.redrobe.c...nian-vetp1.html
http://www.anapsid.o...hellrepair.html

7) Turtleís shell is soft. Either it is a hatchling, and he needs lots of calcium, or he is a softshell turtle (make sure you know what variety this is before deciding this) vitamins and UV for it to harden normally, OR the turtle has metabolic bone disease (MBD) and needs lots of calcium, vitamins and UV or he will die. In advanced cases of MBD, vets can give the turtle shots of calcium directly into the blood streem. Another discussion: http://www.turtlepud...health/mbd.html
http://www.redrobe.c...nian-vetp1.html
http://www.austinstu...re/medshell.htm

8) If turtle wonít eat This is normal for a few days in a new environment. If this is not a new turtle in a new environment, try: Favorite foods. If unknown, try sardines, strawberries, live bugs, reptimin. For more good nutritional foods read:
http://www.chelonia....entanalysis.htm and for poisons to avoid read http://www.chelonia....sthatpoison.htm . Regular day and night cycles, with a day period of not less than 14 hours. To make sure he can get unintterupted sleep, if you keep him in an area heaviy traveled at night, cover his tank with a dry but dark cloth.
Raise temperatures to sick turtle levels. Get vitamins into him, by leaving them in his water, if necessary.

If a turtle cannot eat due to serious illness or injury, a vet can tube feed the turtle. Here is a post which shows, graphically, how it is done. DO NOT TRY THIS AT HOME! Leave it to a vet, vet's trained assistant, or a qualified wildlife rehabber. If the tube goes into the lung, the turtle will be killed when you force food into his lung! I repeat: DO NOT TRY THIS AT HOME! Tube feeding a turtle.

What you can try at home is putting the turtle into Pedialyte, or putting Pedialyte into a tortoise or land turtle's water dish. This is available at the supermarket in many countries; it's like a sports drink for babies. If your country doesn't have this product, here is a recipie from one poster's vet:

1 quart of water
1/4 cup orange juice
1 teaspoon of salt

Boil water, add orange juice and salt, then stir. Let it cool down.

[the posters's]... current vet says its ok for turtles and tortoises but that regular pedialyte is better. You can only keep this mixture 48 hours then make a new batch.

9) turtle might have **worms, Turtle has sqiggly things in its poo or in its tank, even after you completely clean the tank, or is listless or doesn't gain weight or grow even though it's eating. All of these things can be indications of worms or other parisitic infesation. Most wild turtles have these. However, they are less exposed to the ones their bodies throw off in the wild than incaptivity. These are VERY CATCHING and if ANY turtle in a tank has it, you have to assume all have caught it. This is generally treated BY A VET ONLY with a number of possible treatments, including Panacur. HOWEVER, you have to isolate each affected turtle, and clean out their tanks DAILY until the infestation has been eliminated. Some people feel this can be overtreated.

This thread gives a good overview on this subject:
http://www.turtletim...showtopic=45533

VSTM recommended these books:
Reptile & Amphibian Parasites by Eric M. Rundquist
Understanding Reptile Parasites : A Basic Manual for Herpetoculturists & Veterinarians by Roger Klingenberg

Also, feeder fish can have parasites. VSTM also provided these links about fish parisites:
Fluke links:
http://www.fishdoc.c...ease/flukes.htm
http://www.emedicine...d/topic1177.htm
http://www.hyperdict...ictionary/fluke

A discussion of Panacur, which is often prescribed for worms: http://www.chameleon...ur/panacur.html

10) If turtleís rear end is swollen, this is one of many possible indications of kidney failure (although it can also mean any of a number of other serious conditions.) If it is kidney failure, only palliative care is possible. Some other conditions can be treated. If you have several turtles, and one has kidney failure, it may be a sign that the animal has been feed too much protein. Change the diet of your other turtles. If your turtle is female, and you gently feel the area around her rear, and you feel lump, she may be graven and need to lay eggs. SEE 12) below. Discussion of kidney failure: http://www.redrobe.c...nian-vetp1.html

11) Tortoise's scutes each are raised in the center this is called Pyramiding and is caused by a combination of several factors, but the largest one being too much protien in the diet, either due to foods that are too high in protien, too much food, not enough sunlight or exercise, or several other factors. Tortoise will get kidney failure at a young age unless immediate correction in the diet is undertaken. For a full discussion see http://africantortoi...n_tortoises.htm.

12) Turtleís eyes are swollen shut, or infected. This is usually caused by a vitamin A deficiency, and, if caught early, can be treated with adding vitamins to food. If they turtle has stopped eating, you will have to soak him in a small container with a substanial amount of Poly-Vi-Sol in it, or get a vitamin shot from a vet, or both. Once infection has set in, only a vet can help your turtle. If your turtle has stopped eating, see the subject on that, above. This can also be caused by a lack of sufficent UV light. Get your turtle direct sunlight, or a brand new Reptisun 8.0 or a Mercury Vapor Bulb to bask in. In box turtles, this may be caused by low humidity. Box turtle discussion: http://www.chelonia....ene_eye_inf.htm
General discussions of this condition: http://www.turtlepud...ealth/eyes.html
http://www.austinstu...are/medeyes.htm

13) Female Turtle is Restless or lays eggs in the water she doesnít need to have been with a boy to need to lay eggs. If she hasnít been, the eggs will not be fertile. However, she still needs a warm, root-free, deep( the depth needs to be about equal to the length of her shell, or slightly more) moist, sandy soil to lay the eggs in. If she does not lay her eggs, she can become egg-bound and die. Waterland Tubs produces an enclosure that can safely house female turtles. This link is specifically devoted to Waterland Tubs and will give you links to a lot of information on them, including where to buy them: Waterland tub information. There are other solutions, most notabley outdoor ponds, but this is a quick fix until you can find the ideal set-up.

If you fail to give your female turtle a suitable place to lay her eggs, she is likely to become eggbound, which will lead to her death if she is not treated by a herp vet. Most will give Oxytocin to stimulate the passing of eggs. The Oxyocin should be preceded by heavy doses of calcium for a few days and extra water. THE VET SHOULD NOT BE REACHING IN TO THE TURTLE FOR THE EGGS. If the egg has become heavily calcified and has to be removed by the vet, this will require surgury, and the turtle should be sedated. THIS IS SERIOUS AND DANGEROUS SURGURY. Here are some photos and discussion of a case: http://www.chelonia....g_implosion.htm

More information: http://www.tortoise....al/eggbind.html

14) Turtle appears slightly swollen in front and back Your turtle may simply be getting fat. How much have you been feeding him? Itís O.K. for them to be somewhat plump in the fall if you are going to hibernate them, it helps them get through the winter. for a more detailed discussion See: Is my turtle fat?

15) Turtle has dark mass which sticks out of it's tail from time to time: If it goes back in, Congratuations!!! It's a BOY! See http://www.turtletim...showtopic=44149 for a very modest male part. Timmy's is as big as his head when it comes out. In a female turtle, you can have intenstinal prolapse, which will not go back in. If it doesn't go back in, you have a prolapse problem, whether it's of the male part or of the intenstines. This requires the immediate attention of a vet, or will result in death. Here are some photographs of a surgury on a prolapse problem. The turtle needs to be anestheized for this, and you need a real herp vet surgeon. Attempting this yourself is both stupid and cruel, and will result in the death of the animal: http://www.chelonia....al_prolapse.htm.
http://www.austinstu...medinjuries.htm

16) Turtle doesn't poop after eating small stones or gravel, or can't walk with his hind legs: Turtle's digestive tract may have become blocked. This requires vet care. However, you may not know immediately that impaction has or has not occurred.

Turtle has eaten small stones or gravel Although these usually will pass on their own, if they do not they can cause impaction and other life-threatening conditions. Surgury may be needed, but you can first try these steps:

A vet's approach: http://www.petsdoc.c...astortoise.html

A poster's suggestions:
Aides for releasing stones:
1. Use a basking spot lamp for day and a nightglow one that shines red at night! You need to keep them warm
2. Soak the turt in warm water (but NEVER more than 90degree water) in a separate small tub (rubbermaid) for 15minutes a day 4 to five times a day. If you soak your turtle in water hotter than 90degrees she/he will experience heat shock. Turts are used to cooler temperate climates
3. sing songs or provide other soothing music to your turtles
4. Give lots of love, and hold your turtle with care
5. Go to turtletimes.com and ask questions!
6. pray
7. monitor your turtle closely to remove rocks as they fall out
8. give your turtle any presciption the vet recommends to help move the stones, including a laxative. If the turtle is not eating, get detailed instructions from the vet on how to feed the turtle, and don't leave the vet's office unless you are sure you can do it.
9. Keep feeding your turtle to help it push the rocks out. One poster recommended Emerald Entree by San Francisco Bay Brand. Sold at Petco. These frozen cubes are full of moisture, veggies, fishy meats, and a little needed oil.
10. keep seeing your vet, who will give x-rays and perform that feeding tube, relaxation drug, and laxative combo that works wonders.

Here is a sheet for more information: http://www.tortoise....ral/impact.html

17) Turtle has a bump on the side of his head, or one on each side of his head: Your turtle has an ear infection, sometimes called an ear abcess. This is very, very painful to the turtle and requires a vet or experienced turtle rehabber with the proper training and equipment to treat. The ears must be lanced, the infection cleaned out, and then the ears must be treated to permit healing without reinfection. DO NOT DO THIS YOURSELF WITHOUT TRAINING.
If the vet wants to sedate the turtle to reduce it's pain, there is nothing wrong with that. Here's another discussion: http://www.austinstu...are/medeyes.htm
Another link for box turtles: http://www.chelonia....r_Infection.htm
http://members.aol.c...rtles/EBT-6.htm
http://members.aol.c...tles/EBT-5.html
Generally, the appearance of ear abcesses means you have not been keeping the turtle's enclosure clean enough. Review your husbandry and improve you filter or other means of cleaning your turtle's home.

If abcesses are not treated quickly, more severe conditions can result. SEE http://members.aol.c...tles/EBT-4.html

18) Turtle has cuts and bruises. For immediate treatment, the best choices are Nolvasan cream and Neosporin. For a discussion, see http://www.turtletim...showtopic=23078. Keep the turtle's water and home very clean while the cut heals to avoid infection. If the cuts are the result of fights, separate the turtles. If the tank has sharp objects, try to file them down or remove them if possible. If you can't remove them (e.g. they are part of the basking platform or filter) try arranging things so the turtle can't approach the sharp area and cut itself or see if you can file the sharp area down so it's not sharp. Don't give up if the turtles is seriously hurt: http://www.chelonia....ural_repair.htm
http://members.aol.c...les/EBT-10.html http://www.austinstu...medinjuries.htm

19) Turtle has bumps on its joints. This can be either arthritis or gout. Gout is the formation of urea crystals inside the turtle, usually due to insufficient moisture. These conditions both require you consult a veterinarian.

20) Turtle's shell is pitted.
http://www.austinstu...re/medshell.htm
For North American Box turtles, see http://www.chelonia....ene_pitting.htm

21) Turtle has exposed bone where the scute should be Whether this happened because of the turtle's actions or your error, here's a sticky that deals with the topic: http://www.turtletim...showtopic=10537
and my own experience when my 2" high turtle decided to cram his determined self into a 1/2" high space and the edges were sharp enough to scratch off his scute:
http://www.turtletim...showtopic=40297
This can also be a sign of renal failure. http://www.redrobe.c...nian-vetp1.html

22) Turtle's shell is fractured This is an emergency veterinary situation, and you must bring the animal to a vet immediately. For discussion of treatment see:
http://www.redrobe.c...nian-vetp1.html
http://www.anapsid.o...hellrepair.html
http://members.aol.c...tles/EBT-1.html
http://members.aol.c...tles/EBT-2.html
http://members.aol.c...tles/EBT-9.html
http://members.aol.c...tles/CSN-2.html

23) Turtle has swollowed a fish hook See http://www.anapsid.org/fishhook.html and a vet.

24) Turtle does not walk with it's back legs This has been traced to eating stones or other heavy objects, to birth defects, and to vitamin and mineral deficiencies.

25) Turtle's leg is broken or cut off
http://members.aol.c...tles/EBT-9.html
http://members.aol.c...les/EBT-10.html

Threads with Treatment Discussions: )

For a discussions of antibiotics: )
bayitral: http://www.turtletim...showtopic=25079

I hope this helps.

Edited by Matt S., 22 May 2007 - 01:36 AM.


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Posted 27 December 2003 - 01:02 AM

Barb you have gathered so much information, why don't you just write a book? It would probably be on the better. And you could collect pictures from us here on the forum.

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Posted 28 December 2003 - 07:45 PM

Boxiebreeder, I am dealing with a legal practice, a father with altheimers, and maybe cancer, and a relocating a turtle to a Manhattan apartment with only a northern exposure. A turtle accostomed to his own window with DIRECT sunlight for most of his 44 years.

Maybe, by the time I have gotten on top of my life, I will edit and coauthor a book with a few of the other moderators and photographers here, and the sales can help Tyler pay for this website.

For now, this if FUN not WORK. Writing is work.

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Posted 28 December 2003 - 08:00 PM

Well if you are ever up to it- you are the one to do it out of all of us!!!!

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Posted 28 December 2003 - 08:02 PM

Wow Barbreader! You have a very full life too! If you ever want to make a downloadable pdf of your caresheets (maybe hostable at turtletimes?) let me know, I can easily port it for you.

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Posted 29 December 2003 - 09:59 AM

Tyler and you are free to do the pdf portable format. However, the advantage to how they are now, is I can edit them as my attention is drawn, by posts, to bad husbandry practices I had not previously thought to mention. Until two or three weeks ago, I never saw people drydocking turtles for inappropriate illnesses.

I'm also going to ask people to add remedies they know to this thread which is NOT in the sick turtle summary, and alternative care summaries for other types of turtles to the Well New Turtle Summary.

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Posted 01 April 2004 - 08:30 PM

Barb I had a thought. I think you should add Runny Nose Syndrome to this healthcare sheet under specific illnesses. You always say if anyone has any suggestion so it's a thought I personally could use the information for reference.

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Posted 15 June 2004 - 05:48 PM

How do I find a reptile vet? I think my turtle may be sick. He seems to be having trouble breathing. He also seems to be floating. I want to give him Polyvisol, but I do not know how much I should give him. Can somebody please help me?[:bawl][:help]

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Posted 15 June 2004 - 07:03 PM

Barb,
In your summary under swollen eyes, you may want to add that box turtles living in low humidity environments can exhibit symptoms that are often assumed to be vitamin A deficiency. This is bad because the misdiagnosis can lead to oversupplementation of vitamin A. Often the problem is corrected simply by correcting the environment and getting the humidity up to the 70-80%range.

Didodeman evidence of flukes should show up in a fecal; though you may want to ask the vet to specifically check for them.
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Posted 15 June 2004 - 11:13 PM

Thank you QZ. I'm amended the summary. See if it's better now.

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Posted 16 June 2004 - 06:52 PM

Thanks, Barb! Many do not realize just how big an influence humidity levels have on box turtles.
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Posted 07 January 2005 - 11:02 PM

What is drydock? My turtle is a red-eared terapin He always climbs out of his cage to find a dark spot in my house to sleep. When he's hungry, he'll come out from his hiding place and find me. But, after eating, i look into the water and i can see tiny transparent/white worms... :blink: what ARE THEY?!!!! And now my granny is complaining that he poops everywhere and is giving trouble to the family. She wants to get it out of the house. What shall I do?? My turtle hates to stay in the water overnight. Can someone help me???

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Posted 14 July 2005 - 10:12 AM

What is drydock? My turtle is a red-eared terapin He always climbs out of his cage to find a dark spot in my house to sleep. When he's hungry, he'll come out from his hiding place and find me. But, after eating, i look into the water and i can see tiny transparent/white worms...  :blink: what ARE THEY?!!!! And now my granny is complaining that he poops everywhere and is giving trouble to the family. She wants to get it out of the house. What shall I do?? My turtle hates to stay in the water overnight. Can someone help me???

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Dry docking is when you take the turtle out of the water and put it on paper towels or a towel or something in a container with no water.

Maybe the little white worms are parasites?

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Posted 08 March 2006 - 04:47 PM

My vet gave me this emergency recipe for homemade pedialyte when I found some baby squirrels that need some TLC. Homemade pedialyte

1 quart of water
1/4 cup orange juice
1 teaspoon of salt

Boil water, add orange juice and salt, then stir. Let it cool down.

My current vet says its ok for turtles and tortoises but that regular pedialyte is better. You can only keep this mixture 48 hours then make a new batch.

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Posted 21 August 2006 - 03:30 PM

Didn't see that Barb wanted me to reply with my diagram in this thread until now... :unsure:

so here it is... :P

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Posted 29 November 2006 - 12:06 AM

My vet gave me this emergency recipe for homemade pedialyte when I found some baby squirrels that need some TLC. Homemade pedialyte

1 quart of water
1/4 cup orange juice
1 teaspoon of salt

Boil water, add orange juice and salt, then stir. Let it cool down.

My current vet says its ok for turtles and tortoises but that regular pedialyte is better. You can only keep this mixture 48 hours then make a new batch.


Hi, what is pedialyte. It sounds important.

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Posted 29 November 2006 - 02:03 AM

Hi, what is pedialyte.

Jeremy,
Pedialyte (<That's a link.) is an electrolyte solution marketed for infants and small children to aid in hydration. It is often used on sick turtles to help to keep them hydrated and to foster an appetite. The information that you quoted in the above is for a recipe one can make at home.

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Posted 08 January 2007 - 12:25 PM

In case this is helpful to anyone, this is a summary of a problem I encoutered with my semi-aquatic Ornate Wood:

I recently took my turtle to the vet because his eyes were puffed shut, and what I learned was that there was nothing wrong with his eyes. It turns out that he didn't like his hide box, and so he was spending all of his time in his soaking dish and no time under his basking lamp, which lowered his body temperature. Because his temp was low for about a week, he basically went into hibernation mode, which caused what I saw as puffy eyes... much like he would get if he were dehydrated or deficient in vitamin A.

This is probably a novice mistake, but I didn't think to check his temperature because I had convinced myself that he was dehydrated. So this is just a note to check for body temperature to see if your turtle is having a biological response to something in his new environment. In my case, I gave him several warm soaks to heat him back up, and gave him a different hide box, and the problem seems to be correcting itself.

If he's not hiding, you should probably adjust some things to make sure he has a nice comfy spot to hide that he likes and uses. I just hope that this helps someone else avoid the same situation :).

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Posted 30 March 2007 - 07:04 AM

Here's a link to a post of mine in the General Sick Aid forum on how I got rid of my turtle eye irritation. I hope this may help some people. Detailed directions are included. Any questions about anything, feel free to pm me. I will do my best to answer your questions or direct you to someone else or another forum that may be able to help you.

http://www.turtletim...showtopic=48972

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Posted 13 May 2007 - 08:58 PM

Hello All,

I was asked to post this per mapturtlemadness's request.

It should be a link to the Merck Veterinary Manual online. GREAT RESOURCE! Especially for dosing. Great reference for vets that really do not deal with our reptilian friends.

http://www.merckvetm.../toc_171400.htm

If the link does not function Copy the (Merck Veterinary Manual) and paste it into a google search.

Thanks and God Bless, Lee Van Hyfte <><




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