Escape-proof & etc.
Posted 18 April 2010 - 05:36 AM
I live in a townhouse that has a darn HOA attached to it, and though the yard is inside the fenced backyard, my BF is a bit paranoid about an enclosure for her, He is worried the HOA doc. says something about no animal enclosures or what not visible in the yard. Frankly, I think he is just being, well, super-paranoid, because everyone in the neighborhood is so nice and I think if we make something that looks more similar to an attractive raised garden bed, but for the turtle, then it won't be so bad.
Also, other than wanting it to look attractive to distract the eye from it being a pen, he wants it to really try more easily be converted in some way incase he sells it at some point, but hopefully not TOO expensive, since he is paying for it. Since he technically is the one who owns the house, I need to try my best to build something in a way that suits him too, but the man is making it hard for me to wrap my brain around how to do everything and so I need help.
Here is a pic I have posted on here before about what I want the enclosure to be (Bare bones description):
-Okay, so along the fence line behind that tree on the short side next to the gate and on the long side (right side) all the way down the fence, I need a way to completely dig-proof it so there is no chance Greta can escape, since as all turtles, she is quite the digger. How do I do this?
-The long side where I drew the border of the area, What materials do you suggest to use and how far into the ground do they need to be dug in? He doesn't want to use wood (even though that is the cheapest and easiest material to find for this kind of thing...) On the opposite side of the yard, along the fence line, I am planning a veggie garden and we want to use the same materials to border that as well as the EBT pen, so it looks uniform. Stone is expensive I think, but that is the only thing I can think of.
-Also how HIGH should the border be so she can't climb out?
-What type of dirt or soil or substrate, do you recommend for the floor of the pen? How deep?
-Is there anyway to squirrel/bird-proof a bit without adding a top to the pen? (Though she does eat her food pretty fast)
-How about reducing mosquitos, since she needs a water source to go drink from and bathe in?
Hmm, I think that is all the questions I have for now. I'll probably add more if I think of anything. I am planning on bringing her in nightly because of the fact that I am not going to have a top on the pen, and so even though the only pests I see around are squirrels, I don't want to take any chances with nocturnal predators. Also, so I can check her over thoroughly to make sure she is okay. Thankfully, I am usually home the majority of the day and from the deck on the mainfloor it is easy to just go outside and peek on her.
Anyways, sorry for the long post! Thanks for the help!
Posted 25 April 2010 - 05:07 AM
Posted 25 April 2010 - 06:18 AM
Now, we decided instead of making the enclosure start from those rocks under the deck all the way down the fence under the tree on the back part of the yard, we are going to stop her enclosure right after the second Hosta right before the tree. (the Hosta kinda blends in in the pic cus of all the weeds)
It will make the enclosure a lot smaller, but the dimensions of that sized set up is already ~ 8'X 3'. Definitely big enough. We were going to dig whatever material we were going to get into the ground 6" and have it up 8" high above the ground. We are trying to look for a material that has a smooth back side for the inside of the 'wall' so she can't get footholds and climb out.
Any suggestions are definitely welcome, though I don't know exactly how we are going to proceed for now. The final decisions on everything is to go to my BF, I am the pitcher of ideas, LOL.
Posted 25 April 2010 - 08:58 PM
Posted 26 April 2010 - 07:01 AM
We looked at something similar to castle stone in Home Depot. It looked like the back part where it interlocks had potential "footholds" that Greta could potentially climb up, if I could stack the stone higher it might not be a problem but..
Ughhhh siighh.. I will just have to give you all updates, cus I have to work with Mr. Stubborn here and don't know what will happen till it actually happens...
Thanks so much for suggestions so far and sorry for the whinyness!
Edited by GretaBox, 26 April 2010 - 07:02 AM.
Posted 26 April 2010 - 08:12 AM
As for not wanting her to climb out of the pen but avoiding a true lid, any kind of wall is ok, provided it has a "lip" at the top. That could be arranged somehow in the way you stack your rock. That way if she does get to the top, she will go "oh no,there is a ceiling here", and cant go horizontal to get around it. Another idea, is to make the pen out of wood, build a tiny lip for it... Then stack pretty rock on the outside, hiding your wood completely. If seeing wood walls on the inside surface at the back of the pen is an issue, you could try to somehow get ivy to grow over it, or hide with hostas and such.
edit: just a thought. does your homeowner association have a website, where you could look up their rules? maybe the bf is mistaken, and seeing a list of rules will help.
Edited by Samsonite, 26 April 2010 - 08:13 AM.
Posted 26 April 2010 - 08:34 AM
I think your idea might work.
Now we just have to wait another month to get that done since our backyard is currently being dug up for laying sod. and we need to wait for sod to settle before really working in the space.
I am so impatient to start
Posted 26 April 2010 - 10:35 AM
Also, although a covered lid would definitely make the pen stand out more as an animal enclosure, if there is ANY chance of predators in the area, you really should make sure it is covered so that nothing can get in to hurt your turtle.
Posted 26 April 2010 - 01:23 PM
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